Yezur Wiki:Dictionary structure - Revision history

Thiorosan: Settled decisions: correct the translations rule — one box per heading on the core meaning, and the gloss must be unambiguous (operator, 2026-08-21)

2026-08-24T12:56:23Z

Settled decisions: correct the translations rule — one box per heading on the core meaning, and the gloss must be unambiguous (operator, 2026-08-21)

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	* '''Inflected-form pages:''' deferred — the operator plans a conventional (non-LLM) bot for them.		* '''Inflected-form pages:''' deferred — the operator plans a conventional (non-LLM) bot for them.
	* '''Reconstructions:''' out of scope for now — and when they come, '''no separate namespace''': ordinary Dictionary pages titled without the asterisk, the proto-language as a language section, the <code>*</code> shown in the headword line and in mentions only.		* '''Reconstructions:''' out of scope for now — and when they come, '''no separate namespace''': ordinary Dictionary pages titled without the asterisk, the proto-language as a language section, the <code>*</code> shown in the headword line and in mentions only.
	* '''~~Translations boxes are~~ per ~~sense~~, ~~not per entry~~''' ''(operator, 2026-08-21)'': an English lemma carries one <code><nowiki>{{Translations}}</nowiki></code> box ~~for~~ each of ~~its~~ senses, ~~because languages divide~~ a ~~sense-field differently~~ — ~~Gaillean has two words where English has one~~, ~~and~~ only ~~one of them belongs in~~ a ~~given box~~. A language appears in a box only where its own ~~entry actually carries~~ that sense.		* '''One translations box per heading, on the core meaning''' ''(operator, 2026-08-21)'': an English lemma carries one <code><nowiki>{{Translations}}</nowiki></code> box under each part-of-speech heading, translating that word's '''core''' meaning only. Extra senses that are English applications of the core — ''mother'' for a source, ''fire'' for a hearth — are definitions, not tables. A second table is warranted only where a second '''heading''' is: genuine homographs, split under ''Etymology 1'' / ''Etymology 2'' the way [[Dictionary:calf]] is. A language appears in a box only where its own core meaning matches; a word whose core is a neighbouring sense belongs on the English lemma that matches it, so Gaillean ''theste'' "offspring" is not a translation of ''child''.
			* '''The gloss on a box must be unambiguous''' ''(operator, 2026-08-21)'': it is read on its own by someone choosing a translation, so a bare English word that English itself splits — ''hair'' (a head of hair, or one hair), ''stone'', ''long'', ''fly'' — will be translated wrong in both directions. Say which sense: <code>gloss=the clear liquid that falls as rain and fills rivers</code>, not <code>gloss=water</code>. Known offenders are tracked at [[Yezur Wiki:Ambiguous glosses]].
	* '''Links are reciprocal''' ''(operator, 2026-08-21)'': if page A links to page B, page B links back to A. In practice: an English entry names a foreign form in its translations box, and that foreign entry's definition links back with <code><nowiki>{{d\|word\|YXS-EN}}</nowiki></code> — the shape used since [[Dictionary:geúrl]]. The same holds for etymologies and descendants, which have always been written as a matched pair.		* '''Links are reciprocal''' ''(operator, 2026-08-21)'': if page A links to page B, page B links back to A. In practice: an English entry names a foreign form in its translations box, and that foreign entry's definition links back with <code><nowiki>{{d\|word\|YXS-EN}}</nowiki></code> — the shape used since [[Dictionary:geúrl]]. The same holds for etymologies and descendants, which have always been written as a matched pair.
	* '''Case-sensitive titles: done.''' The Dictionary and Dictionary-talk namespaces run <code>case-sensitive</code> (server-configured 2026-07-17), so ''polish''/''Polish''-style pairs work.		* '''Case-sensitive titles: done.''' The Dictionary and Dictionary-talk namespaces run <code>case-sensitive</code> (server-configured 2026-07-17), so ''polish''/''Polish''-style pairs work.

Thiorosan: Settled decisions: record the per-sense translations rule and the reciprocal-link rule (operator, 2026-08-21)

2026-08-21T10:29:13Z

Settled decisions: record the per-sense translations rule and the reciprocal-link rule (operator, 2026-08-21)

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	* '''Inflected-form pages:''' deferred — the operator plans a conventional (non-LLM) bot for them.		* '''Inflected-form pages:''' deferred — the operator plans a conventional (non-LLM) bot for them.
	* '''Reconstructions:''' out of scope for now — and when they come, '''no separate namespace''': ordinary Dictionary pages titled without the asterisk, the proto-language as a language section, the <code>*</code> shown in the headword line and in mentions only.		* '''Reconstructions:''' out of scope for now — and when they come, '''no separate namespace''': ordinary Dictionary pages titled without the asterisk, the proto-language as a language section, the <code>*</code> shown in the headword line and in mentions only.
			* '''Translations boxes are per sense, not per entry''' ''(operator, 2026-08-21)'': an English lemma carries one <code><nowiki>{{Translations}}</nowiki></code> box for each of its senses, because languages divide a sense-field differently — Gaillean has two words where English has one, and only one of them belongs in a given box. A language appears in a box only where its own entry actually carries that sense.
			* '''Links are reciprocal''' ''(operator, 2026-08-21)'': if page A links to page B, page B links back to A. In practice: an English entry names a foreign form in its translations box, and that foreign entry's definition links back with <code><nowiki>{{d\|word\|YXS-EN}}</nowiki></code> — the shape used since [[Dictionary:geúrl]]. The same holds for etymologies and descendants, which have always been written as a matched pair.
	* '''Case-sensitive titles: done.''' The Dictionary and Dictionary-talk namespaces run <code>case-sensitive</code> (server-configured 2026-07-17), so ''polish''/''Polish''-style pairs work.		* '''Case-sensitive titles: done.''' The Dictionary and Dictionary-talk namespaces run <code>case-sensitive</code> (server-configured 2026-07-17), so ''polish''/''Polish''-style pairs work.
	* '''Automatic pronunciation: done.''' PhoMo has been ported to Lua as '''Auphen''' ([[Module:Auphen]]); <code><nowiki>{{auphen\|word\|code}}</nowiki></code> returns an IPA estimation from a language's ruleset (per-language data, e.g. [[Module:Auphen/YBS-PJ]]). Divergences from the JavaScript original are logged at [[Module talk:Auphen]].		* '''Automatic pronunciation: done.''' PhoMo has been ported to Lua as '''Auphen''' ([[Module:Auphen]]); <code><nowiki>{{auphen\|word\|code}}</nowiki></code> returns an IPA estimation from a language's ruleset (per-language data, e.g. [[Module:Auphen/YBS-PJ]]). Divergences from the JavaScript original are logged at [[Module talk:Auphen]].

Alompan: Bring the blueprint up to the Dictionary: the skeleton is in use, translation boxes are built, and Related terms takes labelled bullets (report 68)

2026-08-04T20:19:16Z

Bring the blueprint up to the Dictionary: the skeleton is in use, translation boxes are built, and Related terms takes labelled bullets (report 68)

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	How the '''Dictionary''' namespace should be structured, modelled on Earth's '''Wiktionary''' (specifically the English Wiktionary, whose "Entry layout" policy is the most developed). This page is the out-of-frame blueprint; the Dictionary entries themselves are in-character. ~~Nothing~~ below is ~~built yet~~ — it documents the ~~target~~ so that words ~~can be~~ added in a structured, precise way ~~from the very first entry~~.		How the '''Dictionary''' namespace should be structured, modelled on Earth's '''Wiktionary''' (specifically the English Wiktionary, whose "Entry layout" policy is the most developed). This page is the out-of-frame blueprint; the Dictionary entries themselves are in-character. The skeleton below is in use — it documents the form entries take, so that words are added in a structured, precise way.

	== How Wiktionary structures an entry ==		== How Wiktionary structures an entry ==
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	* '''Adopt as-is:''' one page per written form; one L2 section per Yezuri language; the fixed heading order and nesting (including ''Etymology 1 / Etymology 2'' for homographs, from the first entry); numbered senses; glosses in the wiki's prose language — in-world, Traditional English (see [[#The English frame\|below]]).		* '''Adopt as-is:''' one page per written form; one L2 section per Yezuri language; the fixed heading order and nesting (including ''Etymology 1 / Etymology 2'' for homographs, from the first entry); numbered senses; glosses in the wiki's prose language — in-world, Traditional English (see [[#The English frame\|below]]).
			* '''One ''Related terms'' heading, with labelled bullets''' (operator ruling), in place of Wiktionary's heading per relation (<code>====Synonyms====</code>, <code>====Antonyms====</code>, <code>====Derived terms====</code>, <code>====Related terms====</code>). Every lexical relation gathers under a single <code>====Related terms====</code> heading, each bullet opening with the relation it states: <code><nowiki>* Antonym: {{l\|YAP-XX\|word}} (“gloss”)</nowiki></code> — likewise ''Near-synonym:'', ''Coordinate term:'', ''Derived term:'' and ''Compare:''. <code>====Descendants====</code> keeps its own heading, its bullets labelled by language.
	* '''Within a definition line, the comma joins and the semicolon explains''' (operator ruling, 2026-08-04). Items that could each stand alone as a translation of the headword are joined by commas (<code># fear, be afraid, dread</code>); a semicolon marks the shift from translating to describing, introducing an explanation or elaboration (<code># nose; the smelling part</code>). The two combine naturally: <code># seed, grain; the sown thing</code>.		* '''Within a definition line, the comma joins and the semicolon explains''' (operator ruling, 2026-08-04). Items that could each stand alone as a translation of the headword are joined by commas (<code># fear, be afraid, dread</code>); a semicolon marks the shift from translating to describing, introducing an explanation or elaboration (<code># nose; the smelling part</code>). The two combine naturally: <code># seed, grain; the sown thing</code>.
	* '''Registry first — reusing the wiki's existing code system.''' [[Module:Languages]] is the registry: it maps the same codes the language infoboxes already carry (family-prefixed: <code>YAQ-GA</code> Gaillean, <code>YAQ-HE</code> Hertic; <code>YBS-LO</code> Lonish, <code>YBS-NI</code> Nichana, <code>YBS-PJ</code> Pjany, <code>YBS-UU</code> Uu; plus <code>YXS-EN</code> / <code>YXS-NE</code> for the two forms of English) to display name and Dictionary section heading. Every dictionary template takes the code as an argument, exactly as on Wiktionary. Keep the module in step with the <code>code</code> field of [[Template:Infobox language]].		* '''Registry first — reusing the wiki's existing code system.''' [[Module:Languages]] is the registry: it maps the same codes the language infoboxes already carry (family-prefixed: <code>YAQ-GA</code> Gaillean, <code>YAQ-HE</code> Hertic; <code>YBS-LO</code> Lonish, <code>YBS-NI</code> Nichana, <code>YBS-PJ</code> Pjany, <code>YBS-UU</code> Uu; plus <code>YXS-EN</code> / <code>YXS-NE</code> for the two forms of English) to display name and Dictionary section heading. Every dictionary template takes the code as an argument, exactly as on Wiktionary. Keep the module in step with the <code>code</code> field of [[Template:Infobox language]].
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	* '''Cargo from the first word.''' Where Wiktionary only categorizes, our <code><nowiki>{{head}}</nowiki></code> also files each entry into the '''Lexemes''' Cargo table (word, language, part of speech, gloss, …). That is the interlingual payoff the Dictionary exists for: cognate sets, borrowing chains, "every Hertic noun", "all words inherited from Proto-Herta-Olaic" — one query each, self-maintaining. Since the encyclopedia retired its Cargo tables (2026-07), '''Lexemes is the wiki's only Cargo table''' — a deliberate exception, kept because the lexicon is the one place where scale outruns hand curation.		* '''Cargo from the first word.''' Where Wiktionary only categorizes, our <code><nowiki>{{head}}</nowiki></code> also files each entry into the '''Lexemes''' Cargo table (word, language, part of speech, gloss, …). That is the interlingual payoff the Dictionary exists for: cognate sets, borrowing chains, "every Hertic noun", "all words inherited from Proto-Herta-Olaic" — one query each, self-maintaining. Since the encyclopedia retired its Cargo tables (2026-07), '''Lexemes is the wiki's only Cargo table''' — a deliberate exception, kept because the lexicon is the one place where scale outruns hand curation.
	* '''Reconstructions in the same namespace''' (operator's call — no <code>Reconstruction:</code> analogue): a reconstructed form is an ordinary Dictionary page, its title the bare form '''without''' the asterisk; the proto-language is simply another language section. The '''headword line carries the leading <code>*</code>''' marking the form as unattested, as do mentions in running text — but never the page title.		* '''Reconstructions in the same namespace''' (operator's call — no <code>Reconstruction:</code> analogue): a reconstructed form is an ordinary Dictionary page, its title the bare form '''without''' the asterisk; the proto-language is simply another language section. The '''headword line carries the leading <code>*</code>''' marking the form as unattested, as do mentions in running text — but never the page title.
	* '''~~No translation tables yet.~~''' ~~With six languages~~ and no ~~lexicon~~, ~~glosses carry~~ the ~~load; revisit~~ the hub-language ~~mechanism once entries exist in several languages for the same concepts~~.		* '''Translation boxes — built''' ([[Template:Translations]], [[Module:Translations]]): one box per sense, directly under that sense's definitions in an '''English lemma section''', with a required <code>gloss=</code> naming the sense so that homonyms stay apart. Languages are keyed by registry code and grouped by family through [[Module:Languages]], which also links each word to its entry and stars the reconstructed ones; unrecognized codes show as errors rather than being dropped. Display-only — the box stores no data and is hand-curated, like the family ''Members'' tables. English is the hub language, as on Wiktionary.

	== The English frame ==		== The English frame ==

Thiorosan: Recording operator ruling 2026-08-04: within a definition line, commas join glosses, a semicolon introduces explanation (model: 'seed, grain; the sown thing')

2026-08-04T10:29:31Z

Recording operator ruling 2026-08-04: within a definition line, commas join glosses, a semicolon introduces explanation (model: 'seed, grain; the sown thing')

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	* '''Adopt as-is:''' one page per written form; one L2 section per Yezuri language; the fixed heading order and nesting (including ''Etymology 1 / Etymology 2'' for homographs, from the first entry); numbered senses; glosses in the wiki's prose language — in-world, Traditional English (see [[#The English frame\|below]]).		* '''Adopt as-is:''' one page per written form; one L2 section per Yezuri language; the fixed heading order and nesting (including ''Etymology 1 / Etymology 2'' for homographs, from the first entry); numbered senses; glosses in the wiki's prose language — in-world, Traditional English (see [[#The English frame\|below]]).
			* '''Within a definition line, the comma joins and the semicolon explains''' (operator ruling, 2026-08-04). Items that could each stand alone as a translation of the headword are joined by commas (<code># fear, be afraid, dread</code>); a semicolon marks the shift from translating to describing, introducing an explanation or elaboration (<code># nose; the smelling part</code>). The two combine naturally: <code># seed, grain; the sown thing</code>.
	* '''Registry first — reusing the wiki's existing code system.''' [[Module:Languages]] is the registry: it maps the same codes the language infoboxes already carry (family-prefixed: <code>YAQ-GA</code> Gaillean, <code>YAQ-HE</code> Hertic; <code>YBS-LO</code> Lonish, <code>YBS-NI</code> Nichana, <code>YBS-PJ</code> Pjany, <code>YBS-UU</code> Uu; plus <code>YXS-EN</code> / <code>YXS-NE</code> for the two forms of English) to display name and Dictionary section heading. Every dictionary template takes the code as an argument, exactly as on Wiktionary. Keep the module in step with the <code>code</code> field of [[Template:Infobox language]].		* '''Registry first — reusing the wiki's existing code system.''' [[Module:Languages]] is the registry: it maps the same codes the language infoboxes already carry (family-prefixed: <code>YAQ-GA</code> Gaillean, <code>YAQ-HE</code> Hertic; <code>YBS-LO</code> Lonish, <code>YBS-NI</code> Nichana, <code>YBS-PJ</code> Pjany, <code>YBS-UU</code> Uu; plus <code>YXS-EN</code> / <code>YXS-NE</code> for the two forms of English) to display name and Dictionary section heading. Every dictionary template takes the code as an argument, exactly as on Wiktionary. Keep the module in step with the <code>code</code> field of [[Template:Infobox language]].
	* '''<code><nowiki>{{d\|word\|code}}</nowiki></code> — built''' ([[Template:D]]): links a word to its Dictionary entry, anchored to the language's section through the registry — <code><nowiki>{{d\|dog\|YXS-EN}}</nowiki></code> leads to the English section of ''Dictionary:dog''. Use it wherever prose refers to a word.		* '''<code><nowiki>{{d\|word\|code}}</nowiki></code> — built''' ([[Template:D]]): links a word to its Dictionary entry, anchored to the language's section through the registry — <code><nowiki>{{d\|dog\|YXS-EN}}</nowiki></code> leads to the English section of ''Dictionary:dog''. Use it wherever prose refers to a word.

Thiorosan: Cargo ruling 2026-07-30: Lexemes stays as the wiki's only Cargo table (deliberate exception); registry syncs to the infobox only

2026-07-30T11:27:21Z

Cargo ruling 2026-07-30: Lexemes stays as the wiki's only Cargo table (deliberate exception); registry syncs to the infobox only

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	== What the Yezur Dictionary adopts ==		== What the Yezur Dictionary adopts ==

	The same skeleton, sized for a dictionary starting from zero ~~on a Cargo-first wiki~~:		The same skeleton, sized for a dictionary starting from zero:

	* '''Adopt as-is:''' one page per written form; one L2 section per Yezuri language; the fixed heading order and nesting (including ''Etymology 1 / Etymology 2'' for homographs, from the first entry); numbered senses; glosses in the wiki's prose language — in-world, Traditional English (see [[#The English frame\|below]]).		* '''Adopt as-is:''' one page per written form; one L2 section per Yezuri language; the fixed heading order and nesting (including ''Etymology 1 / Etymology 2'' for homographs, from the first entry); numbered senses; glosses in the wiki's prose language — in-world, Traditional English (see [[#The English frame\|below]]).
	* '''Registry first — reusing the wiki's existing code system.''' [[Module:Languages]] is the registry: it maps the same codes the language infoboxes already carry (family-prefixed: <code>YAQ-GA</code> Gaillean, <code>YAQ-HE</code> Hertic; <code>YBS-LO</code> Lonish, <code>YBS-NI</code> Nichana, <code>YBS-PJ</code> Pjany, <code>YBS-UU</code> Uu; plus <code>YXS-EN</code> / <code>YXS-NE</code> for the two forms of English) to display name and Dictionary section heading. Every dictionary template takes the code as an argument, exactly as on Wiktionary. Keep the module in step with the <code>code</code> field of [[Template:Infobox language]] ~~/ the Languages Cargo table~~.		* '''Registry first — reusing the wiki's existing code system.''' [[Module:Languages]] is the registry: it maps the same codes the language infoboxes already carry (family-prefixed: <code>YAQ-GA</code> Gaillean, <code>YAQ-HE</code> Hertic; <code>YBS-LO</code> Lonish, <code>YBS-NI</code> Nichana, <code>YBS-PJ</code> Pjany, <code>YBS-UU</code> Uu; plus <code>YXS-EN</code> / <code>YXS-NE</code> for the two forms of English) to display name and Dictionary section heading. Every dictionary template takes the code as an argument, exactly as on Wiktionary. Keep the module in step with the <code>code</code> field of [[Template:Infobox language]].
	* '''<code><nowiki>{{d\|word\|code}}</nowiki></code> — built''' ([[Template:D]]): links a word to its Dictionary entry, anchored to the language's section through the registry — <code><nowiki>{{d\|dog\|YXS-EN}}</nowiki></code> leads to the English section of ''Dictionary:dog''. Use it wherever prose refers to a word.		* '''<code><nowiki>{{d\|word\|code}}</nowiki></code> — built''' ([[Template:D]]): links a word to its Dictionary entry, anchored to the language's section through the registry — <code><nowiki>{{d\|dog\|YXS-EN}}</nowiki></code> leads to the English section of ''Dictionary:dog''. Use it wherever prose refers to a word.
	* '''A minimal starter kit''' of further general-purpose templates (per-language headword templates can come later, once grammar exists to encode):		* '''A minimal starter kit''' of further general-purpose templates (per-language headword templates can come later, once grammar exists to encode):
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	** <code><nowiki>{{inh}}</nowiki></code> / <code><nowiki>{{bor}}</nowiki></code> / <code><nowiki>{{cog}}</nowiki></code> — the etymology trio (still to build)		** <code><nowiki>{{inh}}</nowiki></code> / <code><nowiki>{{bor}}</nowiki></code> / <code><nowiki>{{cog}}</nowiki></code> — the etymology trio (still to build)
	** <code><nowiki>{{ux\|code\|example}}</nowiki></code> — usage examples (still to build)		** <code><nowiki>{{ux\|code\|example}}</nowiki></code> — usage examples (still to build)
	* '''Cargo from the first word.''' Where Wiktionary only categorizes, our <code><nowiki>{{head}}</nowiki></code> ~~should~~ also ~~file~~ each entry into a '''Lexemes''' Cargo table (word, language, part of speech, gloss, …). That is the interlingual payoff the Dictionary exists for: cognate sets, borrowing chains, "every Hertic noun", "all words inherited from Proto-Herta-Olaic" — one query each, self-maintaining.		* '''Cargo from the first word.''' Where Wiktionary only categorizes, our <code><nowiki>{{head}}</nowiki></code> also files each entry into the '''Lexemes''' Cargo table (word, language, part of speech, gloss, …). That is the interlingual payoff the Dictionary exists for: cognate sets, borrowing chains, "every Hertic noun", "all words inherited from Proto-Herta-Olaic" — one query each, self-maintaining. Since the encyclopedia retired its Cargo tables (2026-07), '''Lexemes is the wiki's only Cargo table''' — a deliberate exception, kept because the lexicon is the one place where scale outruns hand curation.
	* '''Reconstructions in the same namespace''' (operator's call — no <code>Reconstruction:</code> analogue): a reconstructed form is an ordinary Dictionary page, its title the bare form '''without''' the asterisk; the proto-language is simply another language section. The '''headword line carries the leading <code>*</code>''' marking the form as unattested, as do mentions in running text — but never the page title.		* '''Reconstructions in the same namespace''' (operator's call — no <code>Reconstruction:</code> analogue): a reconstructed form is an ordinary Dictionary page, its title the bare form '''without''' the asterisk; the proto-language is simply another language section. The '''headword line carries the leading <code>*</code>''' marking the form as unattested, as do mentions in running text — but never the page title.
	* '''No translation tables yet.''' With six languages and no lexicon, glosses carry the load; revisit the hub-language mechanism once entries exist in several languages for the same concepts.		* '''No translation tables yet.''' With six languages and no lexicon, glosses carry the load; revisit the hub-language mechanism once entries exist in several languages for the same concepts.

Alompan: Worked example: use a proto-language that exists (flag 45c)

2026-07-28T20:10:11Z

Worked example: use a proto-language that exists (flag 45c)

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	** <code><nowiki>{{inh}}</nowiki></code> / <code><nowiki>{{bor}}</nowiki></code> / <code><nowiki>{{cog}}</nowiki></code> — the etymology trio (still to build)		** <code><nowiki>{{inh}}</nowiki></code> / <code><nowiki>{{bor}}</nowiki></code> / <code><nowiki>{{cog}}</nowiki></code> — the etymology trio (still to build)
	** <code><nowiki>{{ux\|code\|example}}</nowiki></code> — usage examples (still to build)		** <code><nowiki>{{ux\|code\|example}}</nowiki></code> — usage examples (still to build)
	* '''Cargo from the first word.''' Where Wiktionary only categorizes, our <code><nowiki>{{head}}</nowiki></code> should also file each entry into a '''Lexemes''' Cargo table (word, language, part of speech, gloss, …). That is the interlingual payoff the Dictionary exists for: cognate sets, borrowing chains, "every Hertic noun", "all words inherited from Proto-A" — one query each, self-maintaining.		* '''Cargo from the first word.''' Where Wiktionary only categorizes, our <code><nowiki>{{head}}</nowiki></code> should also file each entry into a '''Lexemes''' Cargo table (word, language, part of speech, gloss, …). That is the interlingual payoff the Dictionary exists for: cognate sets, borrowing chains, "every Hertic noun", "all words inherited from Proto-Herta-Olaic" — one query each, self-maintaining.
	* '''Reconstructions in the same namespace''' (operator's call — no <code>Reconstruction:</code> analogue): a reconstructed form is an ordinary Dictionary page, its title the bare form '''without''' the asterisk; the proto-language is simply another language section. The '''headword line carries the leading <code>*</code>''' marking the form as unattested, as do mentions in running text — but never the page title.		* '''Reconstructions in the same namespace''' (operator's call — no <code>Reconstruction:</code> analogue): a reconstructed form is an ordinary Dictionary page, its title the bare form '''without''' the asterisk; the proto-language is simply another language section. The '''headword line carries the leading <code>*</code>''' marking the form as unattested, as do mentions in running text — but never the page title.
	* '''No translation tables yet.''' With six languages and no lexicon, glosses carry the load; revisit the hub-language mechanism once entries exist in several languages for the same concepts.		* '''No translation tables yet.''' With six languages and no lexicon, glosses carry the load; revisit the hub-language mechanism once entries exist in several languages for the same concepts.

Alompan: Escape the bare head mention so it does not file a stray Lexemes row

2026-07-19T01:16:13Z

Escape the bare head mention so it does not file a stray Lexemes row

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	** <code><nowiki>{{inh}}</nowiki></code> / <code><nowiki>{{bor}}</nowiki></code> / <code><nowiki>{{cog}}</nowiki></code> — the etymology trio (still to build)		** <code><nowiki>{{inh}}</nowiki></code> / <code><nowiki>{{bor}}</nowiki></code> / <code><nowiki>{{cog}}</nowiki></code> — the etymology trio (still to build)
	** <code><nowiki>{{ux\|code\|example}}</nowiki></code> — usage examples (still to build)		** <code><nowiki>{{ux\|code\|example}}</nowiki></code> — usage examples (still to build)
	* '''Cargo from the first word.''' Where Wiktionary only categorizes, our <code>{{head}}</code> should also file each entry into a '''Lexemes''' Cargo table (word, language, part of speech, gloss, …). That is the interlingual payoff the Dictionary exists for: cognate sets, borrowing chains, "every Hertic noun", "all words inherited from Proto-A" — one query each, self-maintaining.		* '''Cargo from the first word.''' Where Wiktionary only categorizes, our <code><nowiki>{{head}}</nowiki></code> should also file each entry into a '''Lexemes''' Cargo table (word, language, part of speech, gloss, …). That is the interlingual payoff the Dictionary exists for: cognate sets, borrowing chains, "every Hertic noun", "all words inherited from Proto-A" — one query each, self-maintaining.
	* '''Reconstructions in the same namespace''' (operator's call — no <code>Reconstruction:</code> analogue): a reconstructed form is an ordinary Dictionary page, its title the bare form '''without''' the asterisk; the proto-language is simply another language section. The '''headword line carries the leading <code>*</code>''' marking the form as unattested, as do mentions in running text — but never the page title.		* '''Reconstructions in the same namespace''' (operator's call — no <code>Reconstruction:</code> analogue): a reconstructed form is an ordinary Dictionary page, its title the bare form '''without''' the asterisk; the proto-language is simply another language section. The '''headword line carries the leading <code>*</code>''' marking the form as unattested, as do mentions in running text — but never the page title.
	* '''No translation tables yet.''' With six languages and no lexicon, glosses carry the load; revisit the hub-language mechanism once entries exist in several languages for the same concepts.		* '''No translation tables yet.''' With six languages and no lexicon, glosses carry the load; revisit the hub-language mechanism once entries exist in several languages for the same concepts.

Khurouan: Mark starter kit built (incl. {{lb}}); PhoMo -> Auphen done

2026-07-18T15:26:32Z

Mark starter kit built (incl. {{lb}}); PhoMo -> Auphen done

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	* '''<code><nowiki>{{d\|word\|code}}</nowiki></code> — built''' ([[Template:D]]): links a word to its Dictionary entry, anchored to the language's section through the registry — <code><nowiki>{{d\|dog\|YXS-EN}}</nowiki></code> leads to the English section of ''Dictionary:dog''. Use it wherever prose refers to a word.		* '''<code><nowiki>{{d\|word\|code}}</nowiki></code> — built''' ([[Template:D]]): links a word to its Dictionary entry, anchored to the language's section through the registry — <code><nowiki>{{d\|dog\|YXS-EN}}</nowiki></code> leads to the English section of ''Dictionary:dog''. Use it wherever prose refers to a word.
	* '''A minimal starter kit''' of further general-purpose templates (per-language headword templates can come later, once grammar exists to encode):		* '''A minimal starter kit''' of further general-purpose templates (per-language headword templates can come later, once grammar exists to encode):
	** <code><nowiki>{{head\|code\|pos}}</nowiki></code> — headword line + auto-categorization		** <code><nowiki>{{head\|code\|pos}}</nowiki></code> — headword line + auto-categorization + a Lexemes row ('''built''', [[Template:Head]])
	** <code><nowiki>{{l\|code\|word}}</nowiki></code> and <code><nowiki>{{m\|code\|word}}</nowiki></code> — link and mention		** <code><nowiki>{{l\|code\|word}}</nowiki></code> and <code><nowiki>{{m\|code\|word}}</nowiki></code> — link and mention ('''built''')
	** <code><nowiki>{{~~IPA~~\|code\|~~/…/~~}}</nowiki></code> — ~~pronunciation~~		** <code><nowiki>{{lb\|code\|label…}}</nowiki></code> — inline sense labels, italic and parenthesised before a sense ('''built''', [[Template:Lb]])
	** <code><nowiki>{{lb\|code~~\|label…~~}}</nowiki></code> — ~~sense labels~~		** <code><nowiki>{{auphen\|word\|code}}</nowiki></code> — automatic pronunciation from the language's ruleset ('''built''', [[Module:Auphen]]); plain <code><nowiki>{{IPA}}</nowiki></code> for hand-written IPA
	** <code><nowiki>{{inh}}</nowiki></code> / <code><nowiki>{{bor}}</nowiki></code> / <code><nowiki>{{cog}}</nowiki></code> — the etymology trio		** <code><nowiki>{{inh}}</nowiki></code> / <code><nowiki>{{bor}}</nowiki></code> / <code><nowiki>{{cog}}</nowiki></code> — the etymology trio (still to build)
	** <code><nowiki>{{ux\|code\|example}}</nowiki></code> — usage examples		** <code><nowiki>{{ux\|code\|example}}</nowiki></code> — usage examples (still to build)
	* '''Cargo from the first word.''' Where Wiktionary only categorizes, our <code>{{head}}</code> should also file each entry into a '''Lexemes''' Cargo table (word, language, part of speech, gloss, …). That is the interlingual payoff the Dictionary exists for: cognate sets, borrowing chains, "every Hertic noun", "all words inherited from Proto-A" — one query each, self-maintaining.		* '''Cargo from the first word.''' Where Wiktionary only categorizes, our <code>{{head}}</code> should also file each entry into a '''Lexemes''' Cargo table (word, language, part of speech, gloss, …). That is the interlingual payoff the Dictionary exists for: cognate sets, borrowing chains, "every Hertic noun", "all words inherited from Proto-A" — one query each, self-maintaining.
	* '''Reconstructions in the same namespace''' (operator's call — no <code>Reconstruction:</code> analogue): a reconstructed form is an ordinary Dictionary page, its title the bare form '''without''' the asterisk; the proto-language is simply another language section. The '''headword line carries the leading <code>*</code>''' marking the form as unattested, as do mentions in running text — but never the page title.		* '''Reconstructions in the same namespace''' (operator's call — no <code>Reconstruction:</code> analogue): a reconstructed form is an ordinary Dictionary page, its title the bare form '''without''' the asterisk; the proto-language is simply another language section. The '''headword line carries the leading <code>*</code>''' marking the form as unattested, as do mentions in running text — but never the page title.
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	* '''Reconstructions:''' out of scope for now — and when they come, '''no separate namespace''': ordinary Dictionary pages titled without the asterisk, the proto-language as a language section, the <code>*</code> shown in the headword line and in mentions only.		* '''Reconstructions:''' out of scope for now — and when they come, '''no separate namespace''': ordinary Dictionary pages titled without the asterisk, the proto-language as a language section, the <code>*</code> shown in the headword line and in mentions only.
	* '''Case-sensitive titles: done.''' The Dictionary and Dictionary-talk namespaces run <code>case-sensitive</code> (server-configured 2026-07-17), so ''polish''/''Polish''-style pairs work.		* '''Case-sensitive titles: done.''' The Dictionary and Dictionary-talk namespaces run <code>case-sensitive</code> (server-configured 2026-07-17), so ''polish''/''Polish''-style pairs work.
			* '''Automatic pronunciation: done.''' PhoMo has been ported to Lua as '''Auphen''' ([[Module:Auphen]]); <code><nowiki>{{auphen\|word\|code}}</nowiki></code> returns an IPA estimation from a language's ruleset (per-language data, e.g. [[Module:Auphen/YBS-PJ]]). Divergences from the JavaScript original are logged at [[Module talk:Auphen]].

	== Still open ==		== Still open ==

	* '''Native scripts via Private Use Area fonts:''' feasible but deferred; the one-time setup needs interface rights (<code>@font-face</code> is not permitted in TemplateStyles, so the font must be wired up via <code>MediaWiki:Common.css</code> or the server). Input methods and font creation are the operator's sideline project.		* '''Native scripts via Private Use Area fonts:''' feasible but deferred; the one-time setup needs interface rights (<code>@font-face</code> is not permitted in TemplateStyles, so the font must be wired up via <code>MediaWiki:Common.css</code> or the server). Input methods and font creation are the operator's sideline project.
	* '''Automatic pronunciation — PhoMo:''' the operator has a JavaScript implementation of PhoMo (a phonological ruleset engine) to power a <code><nowiki>{{pm\|code\|word}}</nowiki></code> template returning an IPA estimation from the language's ruleset. MediaWiki cannot run JavaScript server-side, so the route is a '''Lua port''' (<code>Module:PhoMo</code>) with per-language rulesets as module data and a parity test suite against the JS original; the source is to be shared. Useful well beyond the Dictionary.

	[[Category:Yezur Wiki]]		[[Category:Yezur Wiki]]

Thiorosan: Reconstructions stay in the Dictionary namespace (no asterisk in titles, asterisk in the headword); case-sensitivity done; add the PhoMo Lua-port plan

2026-07-17T10:09:10Z

Reconstructions stay in the Dictionary namespace (no asterisk in titles, asterisk in the headword); case-sensitivity done; add the PhoMo Lua-port plan

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	** <code><nowiki>{{ux\|code\|example}}</nowiki></code> — usage examples		** <code><nowiki>{{ux\|code\|example}}</nowiki></code> — usage examples
	* '''Cargo from the first word.''' Where Wiktionary only categorizes, our <code>{{head}}</code> should also file each entry into a '''Lexemes''' Cargo table (word, language, part of speech, gloss, …). That is the interlingual payoff the Dictionary exists for: cognate sets, borrowing chains, "every Hertic noun", "all words inherited from Proto-A" — one query each, self-maintaining.		* '''Cargo from the first word.''' Where Wiktionary only categorizes, our <code>{{head}}</code> should also file each entry into a '''Lexemes''' Cargo table (word, language, part of speech, gloss, …). That is the interlingual payoff the Dictionary exists for: cognate sets, borrowing chains, "every Hertic noun", "all words inherited from Proto-A" — one query each, self-maintaining.
	* '''Reconstructions''' as <code>~~Dictionary~~:~~Reconstruction/Proto-A/…~~</code> ~~subpages for now (~~a ~~dedicated namespace can come when volume justifies it)~~, ~~always cited with~~ the leading <code>*</code>.		* '''Reconstructions in the same namespace''' (operator's call — no <code>Reconstruction:</code> analogue): a reconstructed form is an ordinary Dictionary page, its title the bare form '''without''' the asterisk; the proto-language is simply another language section. The '''headword line carries the leading <code>*</code>''' marking the form as unattested, as do mentions in running text — but never the page title.
	* '''No translation tables yet.''' With six languages and no lexicon, glosses carry the load; revisit the hub-language mechanism once entries exist in several languages for the same concepts.		* '''No translation tables yet.''' With six languages and no lexicon, glosses carry the load; revisit the hub-language mechanism once entries exist in several languages for the same concepts.

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	* '''Homographs:''' the ''Etymology 1 / Etymology 2'' pattern from the very first entry — built correctly from the get-go.		* '''Homographs:''' the ''Etymology 1 / Etymology 2'' pattern from the very first entry — built correctly from the get-go.
	* '''Inflected-form pages:''' deferred — the operator plans a conventional (non-LLM) bot for them.		* '''Inflected-form pages:''' deferred — the operator plans a conventional (non-LLM) bot for them.
	* '''Reconstructions:''' out of scope for now; the ~~structure above reserves their place (~~<code>~~Dictionary:Reconstruction/Proto-A/…~~</code>~~, cited with a leading~~ <code>*</code>), so ~~nothing needs restructuring when they arrive~~.		* '''Reconstructions:''' out of scope for now — and when they come, '''no separate namespace''': ordinary Dictionary pages titled without the asterisk, the proto-language as a language section, the <code>*</code> shown in the headword line and in mentions only.
			* '''Case-sensitive titles: done.''' The Dictionary and Dictionary-talk namespaces run <code>case-sensitive</code> (server-configured 2026-07-17), so ''polish''/''Polish''-style pairs work.

	== Still open ==		== Still open ==

	* '''Case-sensitive titles (blocking):''' the Dictionary namespace is currently <code>first-letter</code> — page titles auto-capitalize, so <code>Dictionary:tuku</code> silently becomes <code>Dictionary:Tuku</code> and ''polish''/''Polish''-style pairs cannot exist. Wiktionary runs case-sensitive. Fix is one server-side line (<code>$wgCapitalLinkOverrides[3002] = false;</code>, and 3003 for its talk namespace) in <code>LocalSettings.php</code> — operator/server job, '''best done before the first entry'''.		* '''Native scripts via Private Use Area fonts:''' feasible but deferred; the one-time setup needs interface rights (<code>@font-face</code> is not permitted in TemplateStyles, so the font must be wired up via <code>MediaWiki:Common.css</code> or the server). Input methods and font creation are the operator's sideline project.
	* '''Native scripts via Private Use Area fonts:''' feasible, but the one-time setup needs interface rights (<code>@font-face</code> is not permitted in TemplateStyles, so the font must be wired up via <code>MediaWiki:Common.css</code> or the server). ~~See~~ the operator ~~notes~~.		* '''Automatic pronunciation — PhoMo:''' the operator has a JavaScript implementation of PhoMo (a phonological ruleset engine) to power a <code><nowiki>{{pm\|code\|word}}</nowiki></code> template returning an IPA estimation from the language's ruleset. MediaWiki cannot run JavaScript server-side, so the route is a '''Lua port''' (<code>Module:PhoMo</code>) with per-language rulesets as module data and a parity test suite against the JS original; the source is to be shared. Useful well beyond the Dictionary.

	[[Category:Yezur Wiki]]		[[Category:Yezur Wiki]]

Thiorosan: Record the operator's decisions: registry reuses existing codes (Module:Languages built, {{d}} built); the English frame (Engil, YXS-EN/YXS-NE); settled + still-open lists

2026-07-17T08:21:18Z

Record the operator's decisions: registry reuses existing codes (Module:Languages built, {{d}} built); the English frame (Engil, YXS-EN/YXS-NE); settled + still-open lists

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	The same skeleton, sized for a dictionary starting from zero on a Cargo-first wiki:		The same skeleton, sized for a dictionary starting from zero on a Cargo-first wiki:

	* '''Adopt as-is:''' one page per written form; one L2 section per Yezuri language; the fixed heading order and nesting; numbered senses; glosses in the wiki's prose language (~~the same stand-in convention as article prose~~).		* '''Adopt as-is:''' one page per written form; one L2 section per Yezuri language; the fixed heading order and nesting (including ''Etymology 1 / Etymology 2'' for homographs, from the first entry); numbered senses; glosses in the wiki's prose language — in-world, Traditional English (see [[#The English frame\|below]]).
	* '''Registry first.''' ~~Before~~ the ~~first entry, build~~ the language ~~registry — a Lua module mapping each language~~ code (<code>YAQ-HE</code> ~~for~~ Hertic, …) to ~~its canonical~~ name~~, family,~~ and ~~script~~. Every dictionary template takes the code as ~~its first~~ argument, exactly as on Wiktionary. ''~~This is~~ the ~~foundation piece; everything else leans on~~ it.''		* '''Registry first — reusing the wiki's existing code system.''' [[Module:Languages]] is the registry: it maps the same codes the language infoboxes already carry (family-prefixed: <code>YAQ-GA</code> Gaillean, <code>YAQ-HE</code> Hertic; <code>YBS-LO</code> Lonish, <code>YBS-NI</code> Nichana, <code>YBS-PJ</code> Pjany, <code>YBS-UU</code> Uu; plus <code>YXS-EN</code> / <code>YXS-NE</code> for the two forms of English) to display name and Dictionary section heading. Every dictionary template takes the code as an argument, exactly as on Wiktionary. Keep the module in step with the <code>code</code> field of [[Template:Infobox language]] / the Languages Cargo table.
	* '''A minimal starter kit''' of general-purpose templates (per-language headword templates can come later, once grammar exists to encode):		* '''<code><nowiki>{{d\|word\|code}}</nowiki></code> — built''' ([[Template:D]]): links a word to its Dictionary entry, anchored to the language's section through the registry — <code><nowiki>{{d\|dog\|YXS-EN}}</nowiki></code> leads to the English section of ''Dictionary:dog''. Use it wherever prose refers to a word.
			* '''A minimal starter kit''' of further general-purpose templates (per-language headword templates can come later, once grammar exists to encode):
	** <code><nowiki>{{head\|code\|pos}}</nowiki></code> — headword line + auto-categorization		** <code><nowiki>{{head\|code\|pos}}</nowiki></code> — headword line + auto-categorization
	** <code><nowiki>{{l\|code\|word}}</nowiki></code> and <code><nowiki>{{m\|code\|word}}</nowiki></code> — link and mention		** <code><nowiki>{{l\|code\|word}}</nowiki></code> and <code><nowiki>{{m\|code\|word}}</nowiki></code> — link and mention
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	* '''No translation tables yet.''' With six languages and no lexicon, glosses carry the load; revisit the hub-language mechanism once entries exist in several languages for the same concepts.		* '''No translation tables yet.''' With six languages and no lexicon, glosses carry the load; revisit the hub-language mechanism once entries exist in several languages for the same concepts.

	==~~= Open decisions (operator) =~~==		== The English frame ==

	* '''~~Page titles: native script or romanization?~~''' ~~Wiktionary titles entries~~ in the ~~native script. Our endonyms currently render in borrowed real-world glyphs (see~~ the ~~pending flag~~ on the ~~[[Yezur Wiki~~:~~Daily routine~~/~~Report\|routine report]]~~), ~~so this decision is upstream of the first entry~~.		''(Recorded from the operator, 2026-07-17; the in-world articles — Engil, the English language on Yezur — are still to be written.)''
	* '''~~The in~~-~~world frame~~ of the ~~Dictionary itself~~:''' ~~in-universe~~, ~~what language~~ is the ~~Dictionary written~~ ''in''? (~~Same stand~~-~~in question as~~ article prose, ~~but~~ a ~~dictionary makes it visible on every page~~.)
	* '''Homographs:''' ~~adopt~~ the ''Etymology 1 / Etymology 2'' pattern from the ~~start, or defer until~~ the ~~first real homograph appears?~~		'''English is a language spoken on Yezur''': a relatively small isolate spoken in the middle of the ocean, on the island nation of '''Engil'''. Its origins are nebulous and not well researched — which obscures the large amount of influence it has been under. It has two forms:
	* '''Inflected-form ~~satellite~~ pages:''' ~~create~~ them ~~at all~~ in the ~~early phase~~, or ~~let them wait for a bot?~~
			* '''Traditional English''' (<code>YXS-EN</code>) — identical to Terran English in all ways except Yezuri semantic coinages. '''The wiki's prose is Traditional English''', as most people on Engil speak it.
			* '''New English''' (<code>YXS-NE</code>) — the globalized form: the same language with roughly 3% of the vocabulary swapped for Anglified Yezuri loans or words of different etymology. In Terran terms, the replaced words fall into three main categories:
			*# words English loaned from non-European languages after the cutoff of roughly the 1500s (''coffee'', ''zebra'', ''apartheid'' — ''beef'' is fully naturalized and stays; ''bouillon'', c. 1600s, is a little too late and goes);
			*# words the world typically loans ''from'' English (''computer'', ''internet'', ''hype'');
			*# words with distinctly Terran origins (''sandwich'', ''rugby'', ''saxophone'', ''pasteurize'').

			The two forms are '''not treated as separate languages''' — comparable to how Wiktionary treats British and American English. One <code>==English==</code> section serves both (both codes anchor there via the registry); a New English word such as ''tuku'' gets its own entry page, labelled as New English within its English section, and cross-referenced from its Traditional counterpart ''zebra'' — and vice versa. In article prose: "'''Zebras''' (''New English'': tuku) are equine animals…".

			== Settled decisions ==

			* '''Native-script page titles''', with romanized forms as redirects. Yezur-native scripts are planned for some languages; when they arrive, the romanized redirects become mandatory (custom-script titles cannot be typed on a Terran keyboard).
			* '''Homographs:''' the ''Etymology 1 / Etymology 2'' pattern from the very first entry — built correctly from the get-go.
			* '''Inflected-form pages:''' deferred — the operator plans a conventional (non-LLM) bot for them.
			* '''Reconstructions:''' out of scope for now; the structure above reserves their place (<code>Dictionary:Reconstruction/Proto-A/…</code>, cited with a leading <code>*</code>), so nothing needs restructuring when they arrive.

			== Still open ==

			* '''Case-sensitive titles (blocking):''' the Dictionary namespace is currently <code>first-letter</code> — page titles auto-capitalize, so <code>Dictionary:tuku</code> silently becomes <code>Dictionary:Tuku</code> and ''polish''/''Polish''-style pairs cannot exist. Wiktionary runs case-sensitive. Fix is one server-side line (<code>$wgCapitalLinkOverrides[3002] = false;</code>, and 3003 for its talk namespace) in <code>LocalSettings.php</code> — operator/server job, '''best done before the first entry'''.
			* '''Native scripts via Private Use Area fonts:''' feasible, but the one-time setup needs interface rights (<code>@font-face</code> is not permitted in TemplateStyles, so the font must be wired up via <code>MediaWiki:Common.css</code> or the server). See the operator notes.

	[[Category:Yezur Wiki]]		[[Category:Yezur Wiki]]