Yezur Wiki:English lemma worklist: Difference between revisions
Phase 0 of the English pass: triage all 711 glosses into lemmas, senses and non-lemmas, ranked by how many languages share each |
second tranche published (449 lemmas); record the 17 affix-label glosses held out, the sub-sense lemmas that have no box, and the first-tranche defects repaired |
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=== Not an English lemma at all === | === Not an English lemma at all === | ||
These gloss what an affix ''does''. The affix entries keep | These gloss what an affix ''does''. The affix entries keep the label as their own | ||
definition; no English page follows. Seventeen glosses fall here — the four | |||
listed when this page was first written, and thirteen more that surfaced when the | |||
pass reached the Andusian and Besoh affixes. Every one is backed only by bound | |||
forms, so an English page would have to define an English ''affix'', and | |||
English's own affix for the job (''-ness'', ''-er'', ''-ery'') has the better | |||
claim to that page. | |||
{| class="wikitable" | {| class="wikitable sortable" | ||
! Gloss !! Languages !! | ! Gloss !! Languages !! The affixes behind it | ||
|- | |||
| ''abstract noun'' || 4 || -ets, -ɛts, -ɛsi | |||
|- | |||
| ''adverbial marker'' || 1 || -due | |||
|- | |||
| ''agent'' || 2 || -so | |||
|- | |||
| ''augmentative'' || 4 || -ge, -gɛ | |||
|- | |||
| ''away'' || 1 || bon- | |||
|- | |||
| ''causative'' || 5 || ᵐbi-, bi-, mi- | |||
|- | |||
| ''collective'' || 4 || -uɣ, -u, -uɣi | |||
|- | |||
| ''diminutive'' || 4 || -dzi, -zi | |||
|- | |||
| ''inchoative'' || 2 || -kɛ, -ke | |||
|- | |||
| ''instrument'' || 4 || -ᵐbu, -mu | |||
|- | |||
| ''intensive'' || 1 || ro- | |||
|- | |||
| ''ornative'' || 1 || -onde | |||
|- | |||
| ''person affix'' || 2 || -aewe, -ayve | |||
|- | |- | ||
| '' | | ''place'' || 4 || -õ, -oŋ, -oŋi | ||
|- | |- | ||
| '' | | ''privative'' || 5 || sog-, so-, so'- | ||
|- | |- | ||
| '' | | ''result noun'' || 2 || -me | ||
|- | |- | ||
| '' | | ''stative'' || 2 || -wa, -va | ||
|} | |} | ||
Held out of the second tranche on that reading. Reversible: seventeen quick pages | |||
if the operator would rather have them. | |||
=== Needs a ruling === | === Needs a ruling === | ||
* ''he/she/it/etc'' ( | * ''he/she/it/etc'' (5 languages) — English has no single lemma covering all three. | ||
* '''Sub-senses with nowhere to put a box.''' The table above proposes ''hand and | |||
forearm'' as a sense of ''arm'', but the one-box-per-heading ruling | |||
([[Yezur Wiki:Dictionary structure]], 2026-08-21) leaves a sub-sense no box of | |||
its own. ''hand and forearm'' (5 languages) and ''the right, entitlement'' (1) | |||
consequently have '''no English hub at all'''. For the same reason ''flowing | |||
water'', ''know how'', ''mangrove swamp'', ''mother's brother'', ''we two'' and | |||
''yearly flood'' ''were'' given pages of their own in the second tranche — | |||
against the table above. Either the table or those six pages should give way. | |||
* '''[[Dictionary:you]]''' defines the singular and the plural but carries one | |||
box, glossed singular; the plural forms {{l|YAS-AI|yávhe}}, {{l|YAQ-HE|ιαπα}}, | |||
{{l|YAP-XX|ixaβ}} and {{l|YCP-XX|luq}} have no home. Splitting the heading | |||
(''Pronoun 1'' / ''Pronoun 2'') would give them one, at the price of splitting a | |||
word English does not split. | |||
* '''797 Lexemes rows carry no gloss at all''' and so link to no hub. A sweep of | |||
its own, and probably the largest remaining hole in the Dictionary's coverage. | |||
* Two glosses are unqualified where their siblings are qualified, and were placed | |||
by the conservative reading rather than a ruling: {{l|YBP-XX|komlit}} under the | |||
combined ''dull'' sense, and the ''light'' verb forms | |||
({{l|YAQ-GA|annawzhtei}} and its descendants) under "to give light; to make | |||
bright" rather than "to kindle". Both belong on | |||
[[Yezur Wiki:Ambiguous glosses]] if that reading is wrong. | |||
== Open questions == | == Open questions — answered == | ||
The operator ruled on 2026-09-07: | |||
== | # '''Do the 1–2 language lemmas earn a page?''' Yes — "what is not now can still grow". | ||
# '''How far down the ranking?''' All the way. | |||
# '''Reciprocity?''' Do it; it may be deferred, but it should be done. Still outstanding: roughly four thousand <code><nowiki>{{d|word|YXS-EN}}</nowiki></code> backlinks. | |||
# '''English etymologies.''' An English entry shows an etymology only where it is English-internal; <code><nowiki>{{etym-missing|YXS-EN}}</nowiki></code> implies no ===Etymology=== section at all. The 191 empty sections from the first tranche were removed, and the second tranche was written without them. | |||
== Progress == | |||
{| class="wikitable" | |||
! Tranche !! Band !! Lemmas !! State | |||
|- | |||
| First || 10–11 languages || 153 || published | |||
|- | |||
| Second || 1–9 languages || 449 || published 2026-09-07 | |||
|- | |||
| Held || affix labels || 17 || see above | |||
|- | |||
| colspan=4 | Plus 42 English entries that predate the pass. | |||
|} | |||
: | The second tranche also turned up defects in the first, all now repaired: eleven | ||
boxes had silently dropped a language's second word for a gloss (''he'' beside | |||
''ipe'' for ''and''; ''bejuette'' beside ''bevhéj'' for ''wind''; four of the | |||
eight ''you'' pronouns), and three lemmas were carrying two parts of speech under | |||
one heading — [[Dictionary:fly]] had "a small two-winged insect" as a second | |||
definition under '''Verb''', with the three noun words missing from the wiki | |||
entirely, while [[Dictionary:rain]] and [[Dictionary:cold]] had the wrong part of | |||
speech in the box altogether. | |||
[[Category:Yezur Wiki]] | [[Category:Yezur Wiki]] | ||
Revision as of 10:23, 7 September 2026
This page is the worklist for giving every Yezuri word an English entry to be translated from — the hub-language pass described at Yezur Wiki:Dictionary structure. It is a proposal: the triage below was made mechanically and then by judgement, and the operator rules.
Where the number comes from
The Lexemes table holds 4,284 non-English lexemes carrying 711 distinct glosses. Of those, 42 already have an English entry.
Glosses do not map one-to-one onto lemmas. Thirty-seven are a head word with a sense in brackets — bone (body part) beside bone (material) — and every one of those head words is already a gloss in its own right, so they add senses, not pages. Collapsing them leaves 638 settled lemmas and 36 glosses that needed a judgement call.
598 lemmas still want an entry. Ranked by how many languages share the gloss, since that is how much a translations box is worth:
| Languages sharing the gloss | Lemmas | Note |
|---|---|---|
| 10–11 | 163 | core vocabulary; the richest boxes |
| 6–9 | 23 | |
| 3–5 | 281 | |
| 1–2 | 131 | a box here has one or two rows |
The 36 judgement calls
Treat as an English lemma
| Gloss | Languages | Lemma | Why |
|---|---|---|---|
| -er, person affix | 1 | English suffix, at -er | |
| -ness | 3 | English suffix | |
| a, an | 1 | at a | |
| be born | 3 | phrasal verb | |
| bite, eat | 1 | at bite; the eat sense is a second definition | |
| body hair | 3 | compound noun | |
| female, woman | 1 | at female | |
| give up | 1 | phrasal verb | |
| head louse | 3 | compound noun | |
| high tide | 3 | compound noun | |
| lie down | 10 | phrasal verb | |
| low tide | 3 | compound noun | |
| male, man | 1 | at male | |
| old man | 3 | multi-word noun | |
| old woman | 3 | multi-word noun | |
| open sea | 1 | compound noun | |
| to voyage | 1 | at voyage — the to is an infinitive marker, not part of the word | |
| today, now, at this time | 1 | at today | |
| tomorrow, the day after | 2 | at tomorrow | |
| whole, full | 1 | at whole | |
| yesterday, the day before | 2 | at yesterday | |
| young man | 3 | multi-word noun | |
| young woman | 3 | multi-word noun |
A sense of an existing lemma, not a page of its own
| Gloss | Languages | Belongs at |
|---|---|---|
| flowing water | 3 | water |
| hand and forearm | 4 | arm |
| know how | 1 | know |
| mangrove swamp | 1 | swamp |
| mother's brother | 4 | uncle |
| the right, entitlement | 1 | right |
| we two | 4 | we (dual) |
| yearly flood | 2 | flood |
Not an English lemma at all
These gloss what an affix does. The affix entries keep the label as their own definition; no English page follows. Seventeen glosses fall here — the four listed when this page was first written, and thirteen more that surfaced when the pass reached the Andusian and Besoh affixes. Every one is backed only by bound forms, so an English page would have to define an English affix, and English's own affix for the job (-ness, -er, -ery) has the better claim to that page.
| Gloss | Languages | The affixes behind it |
|---|---|---|
| abstract noun | 4 | -ets, -ɛts, -ɛsi |
| adverbial marker | 1 | -due |
| agent | 2 | -so |
| augmentative | 4 | -ge, -gɛ |
| away | 1 | bon- |
| causative | 5 | ᵐbi-, bi-, mi- |
| collective | 4 | -uɣ, -u, -uɣi |
| diminutive | 4 | -dzi, -zi |
| inchoative | 2 | -kɛ, -ke |
| instrument | 4 | -ᵐbu, -mu |
| intensive | 1 | ro- |
| ornative | 1 | -onde |
| person affix | 2 | -aewe, -ayve |
| place | 4 | -õ, -oŋ, -oŋi |
| privative | 5 | sog-, so-, so'- |
| result noun | 2 | -me |
| stative | 2 | -wa, -va |
Held out of the second tranche on that reading. Reversible: seventeen quick pages if the operator would rather have them.
Needs a ruling
- he/she/it/etc (5 languages) — English has no single lemma covering all three.
- Sub-senses with nowhere to put a box. The table above proposes hand and
forearm as a sense of arm, but the one-box-per-heading ruling (Yezur Wiki:Dictionary structure, 2026-08-21) leaves a sub-sense no box of its own. hand and forearm (5 languages) and the right, entitlement (1) consequently have no English hub at all. For the same reason flowing water, know how, mangrove swamp, mother's brother, we two and yearly flood were given pages of their own in the second tranche — against the table above. Either the table or those six pages should give way.
- Dictionary:you defines the singular and the plural but carries one
box, glossed singular; the plural forms yávhe, ιαπα, *ixaβ and *luq have no home. Splitting the heading (Pronoun 1 / Pronoun 2) would give them one, at the price of splitting a word English does not split.
- 797 Lexemes rows carry no gloss at all and so link to no hub. A sweep of
its own, and probably the largest remaining hole in the Dictionary's coverage.
- Two glosses are unqualified where their siblings are qualified, and were placed
by the conservative reading rather than a ruling: *komlit under the combined dull sense, and the light verb forms (annawzhtei and its descendants) under "to give light; to make bright" rather than "to kindle". Both belong on Yezur Wiki:Ambiguous glosses if that reading is wrong.
Open questions — answered
The operator ruled on 2026-09-07:
- Do the 1–2 language lemmas earn a page? Yes — "what is not now can still grow".
- How far down the ranking? All the way.
- Reciprocity? Do it; it may be deferred, but it should be done. Still outstanding: roughly four thousand
{{d|word|YXS-EN}}backlinks. - English etymologies. An English entry shows an etymology only where it is English-internal;
{{etym-missing|YXS-EN}}implies no ===Etymology=== section at all. The 191 empty sections from the first tranche were removed, and the second tranche was written without them.
Progress
| Tranche | Band | Lemmas | State |
|---|---|---|---|
| First | 10–11 languages | 153 | published |
| Second | 1–9 languages | 449 | published 2026-09-07 |
| Held | affix labels | 17 | see above |
| Plus 42 English entries that predate the pass. | |||
The second tranche also turned up defects in the first, all now repaired: eleven boxes had silently dropped a language's second word for a gloss (he beside ipe for and; bejuette beside bevhéj for wind; four of the eight you pronouns), and three lemmas were carrying two parts of speech under one heading — Dictionary:fly had "a small two-winged insect" as a second definition under Verb, with the three noun words missing from the wiki entirely, while Dictionary:rain and Dictionary:cold had the wrong part of speech in the box altogether.